I think we all refer to it as “Led Zeppelin Four,” but is that what the band themselves call it?

Led Zeppelin’s landmark fourth record turns the big 4-8 on November 8. Over the years since its release, the album has been known by several titles.

With no words on the jacket, the name has been left to interpretation. But how does Robert Plant refer to the 1971 classic?

Speaking in his Digging Deep podcast, Zeppelin’s frontman admits, “I don’t know,” revealing how they chose to skip putting their names on the work and instead opting to place four symbols on the cover to represent each member of the band.

But if he had to call the record by something, “The Four Symbols’ is sometimes what it’s called,” says Plant.